18:45 on 2012/09/01 Reply  

• Alex L 22:05 on 2012/09/01 Permalink

  Well can’t say it’s a huge protest, but I can certainly see more than one protester on the ground.

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• Adam 22:19 on 2012/09/01 Permalink

  Is that why I saw two fighter jets overhead today? It made my stomach turn. Imagine being a refugee from a warzone living in Montreal and you hear that. They’re machines of death, not toys to impress people.

• Kate 22:41 on 2012/09/01 Permalink

  CF-18s have been over town a lot this summer – they flew over the Nascar race, for example.

• david m 13:59 on 2012/09/02 Permalink

  yeah, not to return every conversation to an evisceration of the harper government, but you just know that this one is funded by a grant from the federal government.

• Adam 10:05 on 2012/09/03 Permalink

  I missed them at Nascar, but that’s just as odious. I’ll never understand why people think that machines designed to kill and destroy are cool and fun. At least we don’t have anywhere near the same level of worship of the military in this country as you see south of the border.

• Taylor C. Noakes 17:08 on 2012/09/03 Permalink

  @Adam – military equipment can be used for purposes other than killing people. The CF has equipment which can be used to make salt water and ‘compromised’ fresh water potable, clean up after an oil spill, search for and rescue people, re-build after an environmental disaster (e.g. earthquake, hurricane, ice-storm, flood) not to mention provide emergency air-traffic control, hydrographic survey, ice-flow survey and fisheries patrol.

  The CF-18s have been used to protect Canadian airspace from incursions by Russian/Soviet strategic bombers, bomb Iraqi military positions (in Gulf War 1), bomb the Serb & Croatian military during the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo, not to mention support the Libyan rebels against Ghaddafi’s war-machine.

  Yes, they can be used to kill, but that is not strictly speaking the MO of the Canadian Forces.

  I’m no hawk, and I have zero love for the Tories, but we need a strong military to protect ourselves from external aggression, and/or for peacekeeping, peacemaking and the general aid-to-the-civil power uses our CF is most-often used for. It’s this latter capability we often forget about entirely.

• Adam 09:01 on 2012/09/04 Permalink

  “The CF-18s have been used to protect Canadian airspace from incursions by Russian/Soviet strategic bombers, bomb Iraqi military positions (in Gulf War 1), bomb the Serb & Croatian military during the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo, not to mention support the Libyan rebels against Ghaddafi’s war-machine.

  Um, all of those (except possibly the first one) are another way of saying “killing people.”

  And no one oohs and ahs over desalinization equipment. People like to see the killing machines.

  “Yes, they can be used to kill, but that is not strictly speaking the MO of the Canadian Forces.”

  That’s what militaries do. They kill people and blow things up. It’s why they exist. I wish we would do like Costa Rica and just abolish the entire thing. It would save billions and as a bonus the Canadian government would have less blood on its hands.

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