My guess is that most of these projects won’t be built for some reason or other. On the other hand, a friend suggested that there should be some part of downtown being promoted as a 24hrs a day neighbourhood, that could work and help sell condos…
Last year Gilbert Rozon suggested a late-night zone for downtown, but I think he was imagining it more in terms of a permanent festival zone with himself in charge. But on the whole it’s a good idea.
If we had that, we’d also need a neighbourhood for night workers where quiet during the day would be enforced.
I lived on de Maisonneuve near Guy for a short while about 6 years ago and found it to be quite a 24 hour neighbourhood. Lots of 24 hour deps and late night restos. None of the grocery stores are open all night but many stay open quite late. No matter when you went outside, there were always people around.
doesn’t the provigo on saint-cath stay open all night?
anyway, a nice summary of some of the projects, but he misses the point, omitting the mid- to high-rise projects on crescent (above and below saint-cath), on bishop and on drummond north of réné-lévesque. these buildings will fill in so many empty lots downtown and bring in hundreds of residents over solid retail walls, something like out of an urbanist fantasy. the towers getting all the attention around the bell center, they’ll have a fairly marginal impact on the lives of montrealais compared with the excellent infill we’re seeing.
also, that bleury project isn’t on anyone’s radar, it’s a fantasy someone threw up at some point, mtlurb has a thread going, but this property is almost surely never going to look like that.
I like this news allot, mostly because I love skyscrapers, love living in them and want Montreal to have lots more, but I agree with Charles, most of these will never happen. We have seen so many ambitious projects fizzle out recently during a hot market and most of these will either be half built or still in financing when this market inevitably fizzles out again, like it always does.
@ Charles
“My guess is that most of these projects won’t be built for some reason or other. ”
1. Altitude Montreal: IN CONSTRUCTION
2. Tour Viger: IN CONSTRUCTION
3. TOM condos: selling well
4. Ilot Overdale: only a proposition, maybe it wont be built.
5. L’Avenue: not in sale for now, but really serious promoter, big sales office being built right now.
6. Tour des Canadiens: not in sale for now, but serious promoter.
7. ICONE: Almost 50% sold after a few weeks, it will be built.
8. Le Rocabella: Already 25% sold after a few weeks.
9. Ilot Ogilvy: Things are already in motion for this project
10. Deloitte Tower: Construction will start in october (found a major tenant)
11. Marriott: IN CONSTRUCTION
12. Tour du Musée: sales are good
13. Peterson: huge, successful presale
14: Drummund: I don’t think Samcon canceled a project before.
Ironically, I applaud urban densification in theory, while preferring to live in an old-fashioned ground-floor triplex flat with a door that opens to a tiny back yard. I feel sorry for anyone who lives in an air-filtered elevator high rise and goes to work in an almost identical air-filtered elevator high rise, but that is our future.
@Marc: Don’t know what to tell you. I buy bagged milk there twice a week, way past 11PM. Rhoda and Jean-Charles work there. The sign says 9AM to 1AM, everyday.
@Kate: Why exactly do you feel sorry for me? That is currently my situation, and I’m loving it. I lived in a Verdun triplex for years and when it wasn’t drug dealer brawls in the back alley, it was cockroaches/bed bugs/next-door building on fire/you name it. If I didn’t enjoy the high-rise life I would move off the island. To me this is an upgrade, to you it’s pathetic. No need for pity, to each their own.
Charles 18:41 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
My guess is that most of these projects won’t be built for some reason or other. On the other hand, a friend suggested that there should be some part of downtown being promoted as a 24hrs a day neighbourhood, that could work and help sell condos…
Kate 18:44 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
Last year Gilbert Rozon suggested a late-night zone for downtown, but I think he was imagining it more in terms of a permanent festival zone with himself in charge. But on the whole it’s a good idea.
If we had that, we’d also need a neighbourhood for night workers where quiet during the day would be enforced.
C_Erb 19:39 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
I lived on de Maisonneuve near Guy for a short while about 6 years ago and found it to be quite a 24 hour neighbourhood. Lots of 24 hour deps and late night restos. None of the grocery stores are open all night but many stay open quite late. No matter when you went outside, there were always people around.
david m 20:38 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
doesn’t the provigo on saint-cath stay open all night?
anyway, a nice summary of some of the projects, but he misses the point, omitting the mid- to high-rise projects on crescent (above and below saint-cath), on bishop and on drummond north of réné-lévesque. these buildings will fill in so many empty lots downtown and bring in hundreds of residents over solid retail walls, something like out of an urbanist fantasy. the towers getting all the attention around the bell center, they’ll have a fairly marginal impact on the lives of montrealais compared with the excellent infill we’re seeing.
also, that bleury project isn’t on anyone’s radar, it’s a fantasy someone threw up at some point, mtlurb has a thread going, but this property is almost surely never going to look like that.
erydan 20:40 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
I like this news allot, mostly because I love skyscrapers, love living in them and want Montreal to have lots more, but I agree with Charles, most of these will never happen. We have seen so many ambitious projects fizzle out recently during a hot market and most of these will either be half built or still in financing when this market inevitably fizzles out again, like it always does.
boblemieux 21:15 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
@ Charles
“My guess is that most of these projects won’t be built for some reason or other. ”
1. Altitude Montreal: IN CONSTRUCTION
2. Tour Viger: IN CONSTRUCTION
3. TOM condos: selling well
4. Ilot Overdale: only a proposition, maybe it wont be built.
5. L’Avenue: not in sale for now, but really serious promoter, big sales office being built right now.
6. Tour des Canadiens: not in sale for now, but serious promoter.
7. ICONE: Almost 50% sold after a few weeks, it will be built.
8. Le Rocabella: Already 25% sold after a few weeks.
9. Ilot Ogilvy: Things are already in motion for this project
10. Deloitte Tower: Construction will start in october (found a major tenant)
11. Marriott: IN CONSTRUCTION
12. Tour du Musée: sales are good
13. Peterson: huge, successful presale
14: Drummund: I don’t think Samcon canceled a project before.
So… most of them will be built.
Marc 21:27 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
@ david m: The Provigo at Fort & St. Cath closes at 11 pm.
denpanosekai 23:28 on 2012/07/22 Permalink
@Marc… by 11PM you mean 1AM? P.A. closes at 11PM.
And C_erb… you or your brother booked my band in NB sometime ago.
Charles 07:09 on 2012/07/23 Permalink
@boblemieux wow! merci pour le résumé / Thanks for the updates
C_Erb 08:43 on 2012/07/23 Permalink
hahaha, what band were you in??
Marc 08:47 on 2012/07/23 Permalink
@ denpanosekai: 11 PM means 11 PM, not 1 AM. In fact today, if you go to the Provigo site, says it closes at 9 PM. Summer hours, perhaps.
Kate 10:16 on 2012/07/23 Permalink
Ironically, I applaud urban densification in theory, while preferring to live in an old-fashioned ground-floor triplex flat with a door that opens to a tiny back yard. I feel sorry for anyone who lives in an air-filtered elevator high rise and goes to work in an almost identical air-filtered elevator high rise, but that is our future.
Kevin 13:09 on 2012/07/23 Permalink
Nothing wrong with triplexes and other buildings of manageable heights when the alternative is single-dwelling homes 75 km from the downtown core.
denpanosekai 18:58 on 2012/07/25 Permalink
@Marc: Don’t know what to tell you. I buy bagged milk there twice a week, way past 11PM. Rhoda and Jean-Charles work there. The sign says 9AM to 1AM, everyday.
@Kate: Why exactly do you feel sorry for me? That is currently my situation, and I’m loving it. I lived in a Verdun triplex for years and when it wasn’t drug dealer brawls in the back alley, it was cockroaches/bed bugs/next-door building on fire/you name it. If I didn’t enjoy the high-rise life I would move off the island. To me this is an upgrade, to you it’s pathetic. No need for pity, to each their own.
Kate 21:50 on 2012/07/25 Permalink
Don’t take it personally. I don’t think it’s pathetic, either. I just would not want it for myself – I’m glad you’re happy with your arrangements.