Elevated train to be considered for airport
This has to be one of the nuttiest ideas on the board: building an elevated train shuttle to the airport when we already have track that goes 95% of the way there.
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Steve Quilliam 09:49 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
Building an elevated train shuttle is obviously a bad idea and hopefully they won’t spend a dime for any type of study on this matter but at the same time it shows how difficult and complicated it seems to be when dealing with the CP and/or CN. It reminds me of the situation north of the Mile End where no one can cross the tracks to reach métro Rosemont. These people don’t seem to be open on finding solutions although it’s hard to say what they think because we hardly ever hear from them.
Mathieu 11:23 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
It wouldn’t be so complicated if they were to use the Westmount sub. (Mtl-W to Lucien-L’allier). AMT has an agreement with CP to have exclusive passenger service there. They could just build an elevated track from Lucien L’Allier to Gare Centrale if they need so much to be connected to this station. There again it would be exclusive.
Faiz 11:26 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
ADM can spend any amount of money they want, but there is no way they are getting any funding for this. Even the $200 million previously promised is now suspect.
Train de l’ouest is a rational project that has reasonably good political support, especially for an incoming election. It’s as near certain a project can get in Quebec. While this is them striking out on their own, what response are they expecting??
ant6n 11:47 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
The connection from Lucien L’Allier to Gare Centrale is relatively unimportant. What would really be cool would be a new metro station in Westmount, connecting between the AMT line and the green line. This would enable a one-transfer ride from the airport to anywhere the green line reaches, and a one-transfer ride to anywhere the orange line reaches (via Vendome).
Raoul 12:20 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
Silly, everyone knows the future is in gondolas.
Kate 18:30 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
Westmount will never allow that kind of construction, @anton. There are no metro stations inside Westmount – no hospitals either.
The problem isn’t the hop from Lucien-l’Allier to Central Station, it’s the hop from Dorval Circle to the airport. You really want an airport train to go right to the airport, not drop you 2 km from it and make you take a shuttle. But I don’t think that should justify running an entire new set of elevated tracks – especially for such a poor province as we’re supposed to be.
ant6n 20:25 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
Well, there’s already a station shell somewhere around the airport (under the airport Marriott?). Also, a simple people mover or even a moving walkway could connect to the station at Dorval. It seems the major reason ADM stopped working with the AMT on a joint-project is the downtown connectivity. Basically according to some survey of airport passengers, gare centrale sounds like a better terminus than Lucien l”Allier. This all ignores that the most important connectivity any airport shuttle should have is with the existing metro network, and naturally somwhere downtown – that’s what the 747 accomplishes very well, btw.
A green line/AMT station doesn’t have to actually be in Westmount very much, it could mostly be constructed in St Henri: map. The bigger issue is whether the green line is on too steep a slope there which would disallow adding a station without having to redo the hole section between Atwater and Lionel Groulx.
(btw, the STM published their new full system map and downtown map; finally emphasizing those 10 minute buses. What do you think about the new map, being a graphic designer n’all?)
ant6n 20:29 on 2012/05/04 Permalink
(actually never mind, they still keep emphasizing those 400/’express’ buses over the 10-minute buses)
qatzelok 09:22 on 2012/05/05 Permalink
What’s funny is that the Turcot – a multi-billion dollar elevated spaghetti junction – is being sold as logical, when it would ALSO be a lot less expensive to simply build more on-ground connections to the West End/West Island. But we’ve been sold on the idea that highways need to be in the sky.
Kevin 10:05 on 2012/05/05 Permalink
I don’t understand why we can’t have both a better Turcot AND a real train link to the west island, with a spur to the airport.
It’s all madness.