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  • Kate 20:19 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    The city plans a second census of the homeless next year. The first, done in March 2015 – in which I participated – counted 3,016 people, a number felt to be on the low side by many.

    Not mentioned in these items is that, by chance, there was a big demonstration downtown that night, with heavy police patrols, helicopters overhead and many streets empty. People who might have been counted were probably making themselves scarce. The area where a lot of people in precarious circumstances would usually have been found was not in its normal condition. The count needs to be retaken.

    Update: I see that the city had already announced a second census, two years ago, but after these announcements I never saw further mention of it. TVA link plays video.

  • Kate 20:10 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    A cyclist was plowed by a school bus at Park and Pine Thursday afternoon and is in critical condition. TVA piece mentions in the coda that another cyclist was badly hurt in an accident Thursday morning. More on that incident.

    Update: The cyclist hit by the bus has died as noted below by Kevin.

    • Kevin 21:37 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      The cyclist hit by the bus has since died

    • Jack 22:16 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      The other cyclist hit by an 18 year old driving a $100,000 plus Mercedes Benz with a suspended learners permit is gravely injured. The 18 year old is potentially suffering from a “shock nerveux”.http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-affaires-criminelles/faits-divers/201709/14/01-5133222-un-cycliste-blesse-dans-un-accident-a-montreal.php

    • CE 22:35 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      I seem to remember Ferrandez saying he would resign if there was a cyclist death in the Plateau. As much as I like a lot of what Projet has done in the Plateau, they haven’t done nearly enough for cycling infrastructure, especially on major streets like Parc.

    • SteveQ 23:57 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      Parc and Pine, despite the improvement that was made 15 years ago, is still too dangerous, not made for a heavy densified urban core and urbanistically not a success.

      The access ”ramp” beetwen Parc and Pine should be eliminated and at least one lane on Parc should be removed.

    • BobR 07:59 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      SteveQ: I know nothing about managing traffic flow. But do I wish that Parc would widen the sidewalks between Mont Royal and Bernard, taking away one line of traffic. Then, with only 2 lanes of traffic North/South bound, tunnel under the park for auto traffic between Ave Mont-Royal and just south of Pine, while removing auto lanes above, so that between Jeanne Mance and Mont Royal parks there is only green space and bicycle lanes.

      I don’t know what this would cost: but I’m guessing, less than the Big O.

    • Joey 08:32 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Aren’t Parc and Pine relatively “major” arteries and therefore governed by the City of Montreal (and not the Plateau borough)?

    • Chris 09:51 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      CE: what Joey said. Also, Mayor Flintstone redefined even more streets as ‘arteries’ thus centralizing more control.

    • SMD 10:03 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      CE, Ferrandez stated on Facebook this morning that Coderre personally intervened to block a planned bicycle path on Pine where the cyclist died yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203516436467408&set=a.1231450162251.27824.1709066378.

    • Ephraim 10:58 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Anyone want to ask why they weren’t using the bike path on Hutchison, which would have avoided that corner?

    • J2 11:05 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      @Jack a suspended _learners_ permit. I can’t decide if that makes me angrier or not.

      @ephraim not blaming the victim, maybe?

    • Mathieu 11:07 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Ephraim, they don’t have to justify themselves for being on the road, they’re allowed to be there and drivers have the obligation to not hit them.

      But if you really want a reason why not everyone uses the path on Hutshison, you have to know that it stops at Milton to direct traffic to University. Hutchison proper stops at Sherbrooke. Someone going to the area around Bleury/Ste-Catherine would have to make a detour to St-Urbain or University and then take Maisonneuve to get there; going down and then up a small hill.

    • Michael Black 11:11 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Bike paths were never meant as segregation. They don’t address real issues, but just because they exist doesn’t mean a cyclist has to use it. Well, that doesn’t mean they can ride on the sidewalk next to the bike path. Too many car drivers think bike paths are a way to get those pesky bicycles off the street, there are lots of letters to the Gazette about “those cyclists that use the road instead of the bike path”. But they aren’t for the convenience of car drivers, they are a reaction to car drivers who don’t want o share with bicycles.


    • Joey 11:40 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Ephraim, it seems like the cyclist was going west along Pine and was struck by the bus turning right to go north on Parc. There would be no reason for the cyclist to be on Hutchison at this point (she might have been headed there). Not knowing the origin or intended destination of her trip, it’s not clear that she shouldn’t have been riding where she was.

      Mathieu, if your destination is Bleury/Ste-Catherine and your coming from north of Pine, wouldn’t it make more sense to take St. Urbain all the way down? Even though it’s not nearly as safe as the Parc bike path, you avoid climbing up the hill from Mt-Royal to the monument…

      Also, what Michael Black said.

    • Ephraim 11:42 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Whoa… not blaming or asking for justification… even as a pedestrian, I hate that particular corner and I try to avoid it. Heck, I would be scared as hell with those buses driving next to me on a bike, which is one of the myriad of reasons that I gave up biking on the city streets. But if I had to, I would go out of my way to avoid that corner.

      And if I remember the rules of the road, I would be even more scared, because legally, the cyclists need to left of the buses at rush hour around there… isn’t the right hand lane on Park at that time a bus only lane?

      Joey, that makes more sense. That side is a little more sane, then going up Park northward… which is the part that scares the heck out of me.

    • Joey 11:48 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      Ephraim, yeah you would take Pine west and turn north on Parc where you only have a short block in the bus lane before you connect to the segregated bike lane.

      The co-habitation of cyclists and buses/taxis really doesn’t work on Parc during rush hour. It’s insane to expect cyclists to move to the left of the buses. But they ride relatively slowly, which means a bus with, what, 80 people on it has to move at the speed of a bike – meaning the buses arrive late at the intersections where lots of people get on and off…. all that accumulated time really slows down the commute. In theory I guess cyclists are supposed to take the bike path through Jeanne-Mance Park and head north on Esplanade, with options to shift over to paths on Clark, etc., at Villeneuve and Laurier. In practice, lots of cyclists have very good reasons to continue north on Parc into Mile-End and beyond.

      TL;DR Parc ave. needs a bike lane.

    • CE 12:28 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      It really makes no sense that there’s a stretch of Parc north of des Pins that doesn’t have a bike lane connecting to the part that veers off towards the McGill Ghetto. The space is there and it would be very easy to build.

      Meandering through the bike lanes on the side streets is fine if you’re going somewhere in the residential areas or if you’re taking a leisurely ride but if you need to actually get somewhere, especially north of Van Horne or a shop on Parc, it makes no sense.

      Parc would be a major bike thoroughfare if the centre lane were eliminated to make space for bike lanes and wider sidewalks. It’s be a much more pleasurable street to walk and shop on too. The number of collisions, deaths, and injuries suffered by cyclists and pedestrians on that street over the years should be enough to make it happen.

    • Kevin 12:48 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      When I spoke to the cops, they told me the learner’s permit was valid, but because he was driving solo –when he wasn’t allowed to — his permit was suspended on the spot.

    • Jack 13:42 on 2017/09/16 Permalink

      Thanks I was getting my info from the article. The bottom line he had no business behind that wheel.

  • Kate 20:03 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    Buried in this story about a visit to the crypt of the Religieuses hospitalières de Saint-Joseph, the nuns who served at the Hôtel-Dieu, are the dates of the planned move to the new CHUM complex and the information that Hôpital St-Luc is to be demolished soon.

    • rue david 21:50 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      Man, it’s killing me how Saint Luc and the square- fronting Childrens building will be demolished. Seem like horrific losses to me

    • Kate 04:08 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      They’re hard buildings to repurpose, rue david.

  • Kate 07:13 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    The overburdened CSDM is using grim-looking prefab buildings for some of its grade school classes.

    • Blork 09:50 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      That’s a tradition that goes back many decades, from all school boards everywhere.

    • John B 10:12 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      I did 6th grade in one, and our Aussie teacher tried to teach us French. It’a a part of the school landscape in the rest of the country that I have actually noticed was missing here.

    • Daisy 10:30 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      My elementary school and my high school (in another province) both had a few portable classrooms. My grade 11 English class was in one. Wasn’t a big deal, didn’t make the papers.

    • CE 14:09 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      That’s pretty nice compared to the ones my school had growing up. I wonder if it has heating (we used to have to go get our jackets before going to French class in the winter).

    • Michael Black 00:29 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      St Leo/Leon in Westmount is getting five new classrooms and a new gym. I’m not sure if the latter means they have no gym, will get a second one, or the current one will be upgraded. There was talk last year of shipping the eldest class off to some distant school, and I thought there was talk of prefabs. The provincial government s paying $11.5 million for this. But no details on how this will be done.


  • Kate 07:02 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    Denis Coderre has signed up two universal accessibility advocates as candidates, and is also fielding a young bar owner against Luc Ferrandez in the Plateau.

    • Jack 12:49 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      Really interesting choice, a west island 26 year old Anglo bar promoter and “cultural curator”. If that isn’t a white flag candidacy I don’t know what is.

  • Kate 06:52 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    I like the new city flag, but this recent New Yorker piece on symbolism vs reality in Canada’s recent gestures of reconciliation with its native peoples is worth a read.

    Along with the change to the flag there’s a similar change to the city’s coat of arms.

    Some people think Saint-Laurent metro station should be renamed for Jeanne Mance.

    • Zeke 07:52 on 2017/09/14 Permalink


      And Christophe Columbe stays as a street name.

    • Chris 09:58 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      I’m sure natives would prefer clean drinking water over flag changes. But hey, that would cost real money, empty gestures are cheaper. :(

      Zeke, I doubt you could find any famous historical figure from half a millennium ago that passes today’s standards of morality. A fun thought experiment: imagine Montreal in a century or two. How might moral standards be different? Perhaps with climate change established, people will be demanding removal of important historical figures that drove cars. Perhaps people will move to low-carbon diets and all be vegan, and demand removal of important historical figures that ate meat. Both of course are (almost) universally considered perfectly fine behaviour today. People should (mostly) be judged against the standards of the day.

      What about ‘President Kennedy’ street? He invaded the same island as Colombo did!

    • Ephraim 11:39 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      Renaming St-Laurent would be confusing, especially since PdA is actually on Jeanne Mance and St-Laurent is on… St-Laurent.

    • ant6n 14:01 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      “In Canada, hypocrisy is a uniquely potent force. Saying sorry and not meaning it is what we are best at.” (from the New Yorker piece)

    • Ephraim 16:27 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      Don’t we have enough irony with the name of the road over the mountain?

    • Lucas 18:58 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      “In Canada, hypocrisy is a uniquely potent force. Saying sorry and not meaning it is what we are best at.” ” – What smarmy and glib nonsense. Only someone in a position of almost total ignorance of world history could produce such a fabulously vacuous undergraduate one-liner.

    • Kate 20:39 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      Lucas, there is a strong grain of uncomfortable truth in that New Yorker piece even if the writer simplifies the issues a little for an American audience.

    • Michael Black 00:59 on 2017/09/15 Permalink

      In other indian news, the Okanagan Nation is having it’s salmon feast and celebration, starting Friday and going through the weekend, in BC. Kind of a bookend to the salmon fry release in the spring.

      On Friday the McGill pow-wow takes place, from 11am to 4pm. It’s a mall one.

      The totem pole outside the museum of fine arts is still there, but I can’t find a date for when it comes down. In May when it went up, the stories said “six months” which means early November .

      And the Metis mayor of Winnipeg says Senator Lynn Beyak should resign after her latest comments about natives. People used to give up their status, or lost it by government rules, and thus lost their identity.

      Reconciliation means more than new symbols. Though at least the early titles about “indigenous symbol” being added to the flag soon became “Iroquois symbol”. There is a difference.


  • Kate 06:45 on 2017/09/14 Permalink | Reply  

    Two victims of overdose were found in the corridor linking Lucien-l’Allier to the Bell Centre. One revived enough to tell cops they thought they’d bought heroin. The substance they shot up with is being tested.

    Quebec has authorized access to the opioid antidote naloxone, which should become widely available soon.

    The Journal spoke to a street guy who says he carries naloxone and has saved two lives with it so far.

    • John B 10:16 on 2017/09/14 Permalink

      The CBC article about naloxone availability mentions, in passing, that the Montreal police are refusing to carry it, despite being legally authorized to do so. I’d like to see some more about that – police are often first on the scene for overdoses.

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