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  • Kate 19:59 on 2017/08/23 Permalink | Reply  

    Montreal city workers are being given eight free rodeo tickets each, implying ticket sales have been less than stellar. The rodeo opens Thursday.

    Update: There will be protests by animal rights groups.

    • EmilyG 20:40 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      Curiously, I haven’t seen the rodeo advertised anywhere.
      Or maybe not-so-curiously, seeing how unpopular it is.

    • Kate 21:01 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      Nor have I, which means it’s likely no ads have been put up in the metro at all. Whereas they plastered Formula E all over the metro: one evening I was in a car where every ad poster was Formula E. Odd.

    • EmilyG 21:12 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      I saw ads for Montréal Symphonique, but maybe I noticed those more because I was actually interested in the event.
      I remember the large number of ads for the Formula E.
      I actually googled the rodeo yesterday to see if it was still even going on, having heard little about it lately, and I found one recent article saying they’re preparing for it. (Though there may be a few more articles today, and while it’s going on.)

    • rue david 00:16 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      pretty difficult to think of a stupider event to host in old montreal than a rodeo. coderre spent too much time in western canada? does ottawa do these sorts of things? if he’s going to totally important utterly random low brow stuff from other cultures, it would be preferable to look to new orleans or munich, over manure and lassos, no?

    • Joey 08:23 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      I figured the only way this could be a hit is if Carey Price were front and centre, but that seems unlikely at this point.

    • Kate 08:36 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      I can just see Marc Bergevin prepared to let Price get aboard a bucking bronco.

    • Viviane 12:48 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      Rue david, the annual Saint-Tite festival is quite popular. Maybe Coderre is trying to attract that crowd to Montreal?

  • Kate 06:39 on 2017/08/23 Permalink | Reply  

    A homeless man has been issued a $1,034 ticket for owning an unregistered pitbull. A lot of people were worked up about the pitbull law this spring – surely they could take up a collection?

    Update: La Presse says the ticket has been cancelled after an expert said the dog isn’t a pitbull, despite looking like one. We’re not getting very good science here, are we.

    • Ian 09:37 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      Well, there isn’t a point, really – he can’t get his dog legally registered as the article points out, they would just give him another ticket. That’s a pretty rough situation for him to be in.

    • Mark Côté 14:34 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      And this week 500 people were notified that their requests for pit-bull licenses were denied. Remember the fear that suddenly people were going to lose their dogs, that hundreds of dogs might be abandoned or euthanized?


  • Kate 06:36 on 2017/08/23 Permalink | Reply  

    I’m of two minds about stories concerning the far right. On the one hand I think we’d be foolish to ignore its rise, but on the other, I think those groups crave media attention and that giving them disproportionate time may make them seem more important and powerful than they are.

    So far this summer it’s Quebec City that’s grabbed the headlines after the La Meute demonstration on the weekend.

    That said – an anti-immigration banner was put up on the weekend at the Olympic stadium, then taken down again.

    There’s an odd park in Pointe-des-Cascades, off the western end of the island. It’s full of anchors recovered from the river. One of them has a swastika on it. Anti-hate-graffiti crusader Corey Fleischer was stopped from painting it over by the town mayor last week on the grounds it’s a relic of World War II and thus part of history.

    It’s worth reading this recent piece on medium.com about how the journalistic convention to “present both sides” may have been distorting the situation in the public eye and giving too much of a voice to the would-be fascist scum among us.

    Undoubtedly there will be more to come on this theme.

    CBC has put all its stories on the rise of the far right here on one page.

    • JoeNotCharles 08:11 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      The anchor is actually from before WWII meaning the swastika on it is not a Nazi symbol, just a good luck charm. The city is going to put up a plaque explaining this instead. I dunno – a footnote isn’t going to erase the visceral reaction people get when seeing the thing. I’d favour putting a removable patch or something over it

    • Ian 08:45 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      While that may very well be true as the swastika was incorporated into a lot of shipping logos, flags, etc. pre ww2, the town really didn’t need to paint the swastika black and put it in a white circle literally just like the nazi flag. That said, I’d be interested to learn more about the anchor, what ship & shipping line it is thought to be associated with. The swastika might help identify it in that regard.

    • Blork 10:08 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      Saying it “predates WWII” doesn’t have much meaning unless you say by how much it predates WWII. Hitler described the Nazi swastika in “Mein Kampf” in 1925, 14 years before the war started.

      That said, the swastika *was* in wide use in Europe before the war for completely non-Nazi reasons. For example, it was used by the Finnish air force in 1918, because it was a well known symbol for good luck among avaitors.

      Wikipedia has an entire article about Western use of the swastika in the early 20th century.

    • Kevin 13:39 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      The anchor is believed to be from a vessel operated by Byers Shipping, which commissioned vessels built in England in the 1850s.

    • Kate 20:02 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      Thanks, Kevin.

    • Ephraim 07:18 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      Which bolsters the idea that it should be in a museum, properly curated and cared for and not in a park, where people might get the wrong message.

    • Ian 12:15 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      With a bit of research I found that the Byers of Sunderland were actually constructing anchors with swastikas considerably later than the 1800s – they actually equipped some of the ships used in the Normandy invasions of WW2. http://www.searlecanada.org/sunderland/sunderland212.html

    • jeather 14:00 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      I can at least see why they want to keep the anchor, but you don’t need to paint the swastika to make it so obvious. Keep the anchor, add a BILINGUAL sign explaining the history, paint the swastika the same colour as everything else.

    • jeather 16:51 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      Well, now it’s being mocked on Buzzfeed.

    • Ian 18:08 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      To be fair I’m seeing a lot of these swastika anchors all over the place as public monuments from the same company. Byers invented the stockless anchor so were quite popular in their day. Turns out their company logo was a swastika, perhaps a bad choice compared to say, the Maersk north star.


    • Max 23:13 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      Holy political incorrectness, they’re still showing swastikas on old Hogan’s Heroes reruns! Somebody break out the video editing software, schnell! /s

      Seriously though, what kind of uptight twit would want to suppress this fascinating bit of maritime history.

      Interesting page, Ian. It’s basically impossible to attribute the anchor to any particular ship since it was plucked off the bottom of the river after sometime after the river was diverted through the second Beauharnois Canal. Looks like you nailed the source of the thing. I’ve read that some of the anchors were retrieved from Lac St. Louis too.

  • Kate 06:20 on 2017/08/23 Permalink | Reply  

    A study shows that Canadians think Montreal is a far more dangerous city than it is. Doesn’t say where they sampled these Canadians, although the item does go on to say that Quebec residents don’t think it’s quite so bad.

    • Alex 11:55 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      Same with Toronto.

      My guess? Lots of rural and small-town folks worried about all the minorities in Montreal and Toronto.

    • Kevin 13:42 on 2017/08/23 Permalink

      I will quote a conversation with my brother a few months after I moved to NYC.

      “So how many muggings have you seen?”
      “None. Why would I see any muggings?”
      “Because it’s New York!”

      The only crime I ever saw involved bikes. Someone ripped off my airhorn, and I once spotted a guy cutting the lock off his own bike. He made a youtube video about it.

    • Ian 18:16 on 2017/08/24 Permalink

      I see the editorial cuts at the Gazette are still allowing stuff like this through… “• Winnipeg the least safest.” It’s embarrassing that the only English-language daily newspaper in Montreal has such terrible use of the language.

      I’m not surprised that people perceive Montreal and Toronto as crime-ridden, this is the “big smoke” after all. It’s interesting that Winnipeg is perceived as the most dangerous, though. There was a lot of talk about Winnipeg having a high violent crime rate per capita in recent times and I wonder if the “most safe” rating in this study is determined by per capita crimes or incidences of crime.

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