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  • Kate 19:45 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    A water main broke on Ste-Catherine at Atwater on Wednesday, technically inside Westmount. Streets may be closed.

  • Kate 19:43 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    Numbers from the 2016 census show that there’s a slight drop in people who speak only French in Montreal. On the other hand, the number of folks who speak French regularly is up.

    Item says “l’arabe est la principale langue maternelle immigrante (18%), suivi de l’espagnol (12,9%), de l’italien (10,9%), des langues créoles (6,5%) et du mandarin (4,2%).” I wonder how many of the folks speaking Italian here are actually immigrants. The wave of immigration from that country peaked long ago.

    English is slightly up all over.

    The arrival of so many folks from France doesn’t seem to have had much effect on the numbers of folks speaking French at home, which declined a smidge between 2011 and 2016.

    • Jack 06:28 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      You will be reading an enormous amount of “The sky is falling” articles. Its astounding how ahistoric they are but they fit neatly into already established narratives and require zero in the way of critical thinking. French in Quebec has not been in this position of power and privilege since I’d guess 1759 and even before that a knowledge of indigenous languages was necessary for the commercial elite.

    • Jack 06:59 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      Heres my current favorite,” Bouchard and representatives from sovereignist group Société Saint-Jean-Baptiste spoke Wednesday at Camille-Laurin Park, a place dedicated to the man described as the “Father of Bill 101.”
      Bouchard says the census numbers show Quebec’s language laws aren’t working.
      He said the decline of the French language needs to be taken as seriously as climate change.
      “If nothing is done, French will be over,” he said. “The francophone elites need to take their head out of the sand.”

    • Bill Binns 09:00 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      @Jack – I wonder what the stronger, more effective version of 101 that these people dream about looks like.

    • Jack 09:03 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      Something that would also help in the battle against climate change.

    • SteveQ 09:37 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      One easy way to improve the french language in the everyday society would simply be to abolish the OLFQ and stop harassing small businesses about the size of their signs (in most parts) and redirect the money to school teaching french to immigrant newcomers, young anglos and francos and to anyone who might need to learn the language or improve their skills.

      To teach and promote should be the new way to go.

    • Blork 11:00 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      I tend to agree with SteveQ except that I don’t think we need to abolish the OQLF; it’s more about changing it’s mandate. It’s easy to see the OQLF as a bunch of brownshirts bent on pushing out anglos, but in fact it’s mostly a bunch of language nerds (linguists) doing things like coming up with French words for new technologies and whatnot. The “tongue troopers” is only a small wing of it. So yeah, de-emphasize the harassment and emphasize teaching and integration.

    • Bill Binns 11:42 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      @Blork – Doesn’t France already have a rather large department that decides what the French terms are going to be for new technologies and whatnot?

      I find Quebec’s dismissiveness towards France on issues of the French language to be one of the more interesting angles on the whole language debate.

    • Ian 17:01 on 2017/08/03 Permalink

      Not so much dismissive as independent. They believe that Quebec’s French is something that should be decided upon by Québecois, perhaps unsurprisingly. Worth noting, the Québecois “courriel” for email has been accepted by the French, and is used in official documents.


      Courriel a bien été approuvé par l’Académie : la loi [5] dispose que les avis de la Commission générale de terminologie et de néologie ne peuvent être publiés au Journal officiel qu’avec l’aval ou le consentement de l’Académie française. L’Académie considère que l’avis relatif au mot courriel publié au Journal officiel du 20 juin 2003 n’abroge pas les avis antérieurs, il les complète. D’origine québécoise, courriel, qui ne figurait pas précédemment dans le vocabulaire officiel, y a été ajouté parce qu’il s’était répandu spontanément dans l’usage. On peut l’employer conjointement avec ses synonymes courrier électronique, message(rie) électronique.

      Quant à mél. , il reste bien précisé que ce terme n’est pas un mot plein, mais un symbole qui doit s’utiliser seulement dans les mêmes conditions que tél. pour téléphone. Si l’usage se répandait néanmoins de le traiter comme un mot plein (Envoyer, recevoir un mel), il conviendrait de l’écrire sans accent ni point abréviatif, mais cela n’est pas encore admis. L’Académie suit attentivement cette question.”

      That said, even Canadian English has its own edition of the Oxford Dictionary.

  • Kate 19:33 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    Denis Coderre has made a promise that the city should do what it can to protect the Cinéma Impérial.

  • Kate 12:53 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    The Olympic stadium is going to be used for the first time to house an influx of asylum seekers from the United States.

    • Ephraim 15:07 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Well, at least it’s being used for something, other than kindling for taxpayer monies.

    • Bill Binns 15:19 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Stay tuned for the “Look how we make people live!” articles. “There are holes in the roof!”

    • Viviane 16:49 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Bill Binns, the “holes in the roof” are above the playing field. That’s not where the asylum seekers are supposed to be kept.

    • Taylor C. Noakes 17:44 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Also: there aren’t any holes in the roof.

      It’s 2017, not 1987.

    • Kate 19:50 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Stay tuned for the “Look how we make people live!” articles.

      I don’t think so, Bill Binns. Those people won’t be kept there for long, it’s just till they get a preliminary processing and are found proper places to live. But in the meantime they’ve got to have basic shelter and places to sleep.

      The story is making the international news, not least because media are noticing how vulnerable people are fleeing the United States.

  • Kate 07:14 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    An exhibit about Expo 67 on St Helen’s Island has been found to be full of factual errors.

  • Kate 07:07 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    Another year, another rate hike request from Hydro-Quebec.

    • Jim 08:36 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

    • Bill Binns 11:56 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Meh, I can’t get mad at Hydro right now. Last year they started reporting my electricity usage on their website by day. I cannot begin to tell you how much insight this gives you into your electricity usage. Finally, I can make the connection between my activities at home and my power consumption. The website tells me that at this time of year, with intermittent AC usage, I’m spending about $1.50 a day on power. That’s a bargain no matter how you look at it.

    • Adam Hooper 17:11 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Also: without knowing inflation, a reader can’t tell whether Hydro will take up a larger, smaller, or equal portion of household expenses this year compared to last year. (It’s smaller.)

  • Kate 07:03 on 2017/08/02 Permalink | Reply  

    Police are seeking one René Audet, who fled from custody on a supervised outing. Item shows photo and has description.

    • Blork 10:06 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Located. (No additional link needed; original CBC story has been updated.)

    • Kate 20:25 on 2017/08/02 Permalink

      Thanks, Blork!

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