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  • Kate 18:22 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    Patrick Lejtenyi writes about the ban on the Agente 728 XXX porno for Vice.

    • Ian 18:30 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      While I get the cop porn angle, anyone who has seem matricule 728’s face would reverse boner so hard they’d get an aneurysm. That said, I wonder how much Quebec political porn there is. Is it even a genre? In a way I hope so. There’s something terribly meta about a parody f*ck movie about people that f*ck the population over on a daily.

    • Taylor C. Noakes 14:31 on 2012/12/02 Permalink

      Agree re: reverse bonerism.

      Also, in the Vice pic at top of page – anyone else notice the Toronto Police Service arm patches?


  • Kate 18:09 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    A major fire in an industrial building in the east end is sending up a big plume of black smoke. It’s a heating oil delivery business, so imagine – and it’s a part of town where industrial and residential buildings are often side by side. It’s a cold night to have power out – a couple thousand residents around the fire zone have been plunged into darkness.

    • mare 18:30 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Mmm, that’s our heating oil company, and I was going to order oil next week since we’re running on fumes. Guess I have to change companies.

    • walkerp 10:54 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Not sure if there is any direct relation, but a transformer on a telephone pole on Clark between Villeneuve and Mont-Royal exploded last night (Friday) around 7:00 pm, sending out a shower of sparks and oil onto a car parked below and plunging that street into darkness, up to St-Joseph. They finished replacing the transformer around 7:00 am this morning and got the power back on.

    • Kate 12:02 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Someone on Reddit commented that their power was fluctuating in the Plateau during the fire blackout, so it’s not implausible.

    • Kate 17:08 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      mare, the owner of the business – he’s the third generation of the family that started it – says he plans to relocate and continue, so you might want to keep giving him your business. In one of the stories it’s mentioned that all he has left from the fire is five trucks that hadn’t been on site, but he must’ve had insurance.

  • Kate 11:55 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    Enbridge wants to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow flow of a pipeline between Ontario to Montreal to bring Alberta crude to Quebec refineries. New word of the day: dilbit: diluted bitumen, or tar sands oil.

    • Taylor C. Noakes 12:17 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I have no issue with this, but why is it that we can’t seem to build fool-proof, fail-proof pipelines in this country?

      I mean, that’s the whole issue right? That a spill would be catastrophically bad for whatever local environment it affects.

      So why not just mandate that all pipelines be constructed inside ‘containment troughs’?

      I mean, there has to be a better way we just don’t want to pay for.

    • walkerp 12:19 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      It’s a nice idea, but pipelines are simply never going to be infallible.

    • Kate 12:53 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Yep Taylor, this one isn’t just us. They fail everywhere.

    • Jack 13:51 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      How about we don’t want dirty,filthy tar sands oil. Oil is bad enough but when you have to use pristine water and a another hydro-carbon to extract it……aren’t we begging for extinction.

    • Jack 13:55 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      @ Taylor Noakes ” No one today wishes to alleviate, mitigate or otherwise obliterate current problems so that our children, or our children’s children, won’t have to deal with it and could potentially be free to do ever greater things.” That is why you should oppose the pipeline.

    • Kevin 14:10 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      @Taylor and @Jack, this isn’t a new pipeline. This is just restoring the oil flow to its original direction. When Line 9 was built the oil went east. In the ’90s they reversed it, now they want it to go east again.

    • Kate 15:08 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Maybe its original direction, but the Gazette piece says “It also wants to increase the line’s capacity from 240,000 barrels per day to 300,000 barrels per day.”

      I don’t think it’s beyond our imagination that an oil company’s greed could push the capacity into the danger zone.

    • Robert J 16:42 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I suspect this will happen. There’s just too much money to be made. It would take a major crisis to get people to seriously think about the implications of this industry.

    • Raymond Lutz 19:02 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Pour alimenter les rafineries montréalaises? Bullshit:

      “The Gulf of Mexico coast is the only place in the world with any significant capacity for handling bitumen. That’s because it has refineries equipped to handle heavy oil from Venezuela. If the Asians buy any bitumen from Canada, they’ll insist on a very steep discount, because they’ll have to ship it to the Gulf of Mexico, too.”


      This bitumen will go straight to Portland. The only jobs we’ll get is mopping leaks.

    • Hamza 21:59 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      don’t we have…. like a gazillion megawatts of clean, safe hydroelectricity?

    • Ian 22:14 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Yes, but the argument is that we also need to create jobs, like those lost when the east end refinery shut down last year. Personally I’d rather see jobs associated with negative-contribution industries be considered an acceptable casualty rate toward modernization but it’s a bitter pill for many politicians to deliver to their constituents.

    • steph 08:53 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Lets not get delusional over “clean hydroelectricity”. The huge swaths of forest we flood make lakes with a very messed up pH. The methane released by the sudden rotting plant matter stays dissolved in the still water. While some methane gets whisked into the atmosphere at the turbines (something HydroQuebec will never measure and publish), what doesn’t flow out to sea will take generations to settle and neutralize. And no one is counting the carbon footprint of the lost forests we’re destroying. Replacing one ecosystem with another takes hundreds of year to find a new balance.

    • Raymond Lutz 09:23 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      First, anybody interested by this issue should read “Going in Reverse: The Tar Sands Oil Threat to Central Canada and New England”[1]

      @Ian Où seront vos gains nets de jobs quand les déversements détruiront des emplois déjà existants? (eg: pêcheurs sans emplois depuis the BP Horizon spill)[2].

      Et vous oubliez les investissements qui n’auront pas lieu dans les énergie alternatives:

      “Killing more jobs than it creates

      According to the U.S. State Department the pipeline would create at most 6,500 temporary construction jobs, and would leave only “hundreds” of permanent jobs, according to TransCanada, the Canadian company that wants to build the pipeline. Claims that the pipeline would employ tens or even hundreds of thousands of people are simply not true. A Cornell University study concludes the pipeline would kill more jobs than it would create, by reducing investment in the clean energy economy.”[3]

      Où sera votre sacro-sainte économie quand la température aura accru de 2C? 4C?
      NASA’s James Hansen: tar sands is the “dirtiest of fuels” and “game over for the climate”[4]

      [1e] http://www.nrdc.org/energy/going-in-reverse.asp
      [1f] http://www.equiterre.org/publication/a-contre-courant-lest-du-canada-et-la-nouvelle-angleterre-dans-la-mire-de-lindustrie-des
      [2] http://www.frbatlanta.org/documents/rein/southpoint/harper_economic_impact.pdf
      [3] http://www.nrdc.org/energy/keystone-pipeline/
      [4] http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ddroitsch/nasas_james_hansen_says_tar_sa.html

    • qatzelok 11:12 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Captains of the Titanic: “Let’s cluster the deck chairs into groups.”

    • Kate 11:54 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Also: isn’t this odd to happen right after the dismantling of the Shell refinery?

    • David Tighe 14:46 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Like Jack I consider that we should refuse dirty oil that is only competitive because of government subsidies, the fact that the environmental mess they create is not paid for and finally because no compensation is paid for the carbon generated during extraction, transport and refining.

  • Kate 10:43 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    A study has shown that the air quality is poor in some of the city’s elementary schools – humid and full of mold – and lack of maintenance makes the school buildings look like something from the third world.

    It seems to me we built a lot of stuff here in the early to mid 20th century with a culture-wide blindness in effect, a blithe assumption that when you put up a school or a highway or a stadium – building, in many cases, as cheaply as possible – they would magically stay up and be usable forever. And now everything’s falling down and going moldy all at once at a time when we’re much, much poorer. Paging Oswald Spengler, is this what the decline of the west feels like, close up?

    • Taylor C. Noakes 11:53 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      So what does/will it take to convince nearly two million people to start planning for a better future in which subsequent generations aren’t completely screwed over by the greed and shortsightedness of those who came before.

      It’s a remarkable thing about our city and our province, no one currently in positions of power seems to have the slightest interest in making life better for any future generation. No one today wishes to alleviate, mitigate or otherwise obliterate current problems so that our children, or our children’s children, won’t have to deal with it and could potentially be free to do ever greater things.

      It’s like the awful argument I hear vis-a-vis public school financing, when people say “my kid isn’t in public school”, or “I don’t have kids”, or “my kids already went to school” and thus they shouldn’t have to pay school taxes, completely missing the point that the system couldn’t possibly be sustained without everyone’s participation, not to mention all the social pathologies systematically eliminated simply by having a public education system in the first place.

      I really wonder what it will take to make people a little less selfish and a little more sensible.

      People tell me I’m an idiot to even think such a thing is possible.

    • Stefan 12:11 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      taylor: have you heard about the plateau, where m. ferrandez already did make life better for future generations by investing in sustainable projects instead of one-time effects like redundant snow-clearing, as one example. projet montreal may just have the platform for you.

    • Kate 12:13 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      It’s facile to say, but we basically abandoned organized religion as the main focus of human lives and replaced it with profit. Now we’re living in a neoliberal world where the only value anyone takes seriously is profit, mostly corporate profit. Anything standing in its way must be swept aside; anything not making profit, like public education or socialized medicine, is tolerated at best, minimally funded with a sort of grumbling undertow that it really would all work better if everything were profit-based.

      I don’t know how to replace profit with a humanistic vision of the value of organizing things for the betterment of human existence, not just of the wealthy but of everyone, with regard for treating the planet decently so it can sustain us into a viable future. I wish I did.

    • Taylor C. Noakes 12:48 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      @Kate – about profit.

      Our current approach, both to the economy and the environment is unsustainable. MIT professors have been arguing against a consumerist-driven economy for forty years, largely because it will eventually topple the global economy and likely result in a massive environmental catastrophe in the process.

      We can’t change the world, but we could, at the very least, shore up our economy and environment by going against the grain.

      Doing so would allow us to remain profitable (in that we’d be able to maintain a modicum of our present society) in the post-profit era.

      If we’re going to survive long-term we need a city that is self-sufficient in just about every conceivable way. A tall order, but far from impossible to accomplish.

    • Susana Machado 15:05 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I agree with Kate about the profit thing. The problem is compounded by people being dumb about it too. People, in general don’t like to spend lump sums of money. If you have something, a building or whatever, and you tell the average Joe that we can either patch it up and spend 100K per year for the next twenty years and then we will see, or we can tear ir down and build a brand new one for 1M that will last 50 years, Joe will choose option one, because 100K/year for twenty years is better than 1M lump sum. It is weird, but many studies have shown that people tend to choose that.

      So profit and greed. And not being very smart about it.

    • David Tighe 12:18 on 2012/12/01 Permalink

      Kate’s remark stimulates lots of reflection. Religion was essentially a tool used by the powerful to ensure that the masses contributed maximally to their prestige and wealth. So, now, is profit. But of course profit is an illusion (as was religion). It is basically a momentary financial surplus resulting from ignoring the external costs of production.

      What Kate calls the grumbling undertow is a serious problem. The illusion that expenditure on goods and services should be subjected to criteria based on profit should by now have been severely shaken. However, we use short-term party-political gain as the main criterion for allocating public resources. Hardly better.

      What can be done: “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars……..”? Maybe religion has answers sometimes after all

  • Kate 10:31 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    Richard Marcotte, the much embattled mayor of Mascouche, has finally stepped down after saying for months he wouldn’t.

  • Kate 10:08 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    Cold weather has begun with a water main break overnight downtown. It’s been cleaned up now.

    • Stephane Daury (@stephdau) 10:14 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      C’mon now… As citizens, we have to be understanding and reasonable. It’s not like cold is a recurring thing here, or that we’re amply paying to have proper infrastructures, or anything.

    • Kate 11:20 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      ha ha, no. Of course not.

      At least it will be warmer on the weekend

  • Kate 01:44 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    CBC has a text piece summarizing its Fifth Estate findings on Luka Magnotta. Someone asked here recently about Magnotta’s history torturing cats. It gets into that, among other things.

    I’m a little surprised even now that you can do a show like this about someone awaiting trial. I don’t think there’ll be much doubt about the outcome of Magnotta’s day in court, but isn’t there at least supposed to be some pretence of giving him a fair trial?

    • Ian 08:37 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I think one thing we learned from Homolka and Bernardo is that if you have them on tape doing the awful things, it’s best not to give them any chance to weasel out of being in jail for the rest of their natural lives. “Fair trial” doesn’t count when you film yourself killing and eating a man.

    • Bill Binns 09:27 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I think the tape may end up helping him more than hurting him in the end. It proves that he was “sick”. Once he convinces a jury he was suffering from a disease, it only takes a doctors note and a stack of prescriptions to walk out the door and become your downstairs neighbor.

    • Blork 10:19 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Bill makes a good point about the worry of a wrist-slap penalty due to “mental illness” (everyone will make a comparison with the doctor who killed his two kids). But I think that is unlikely in this case, as the videos and all the other weirdness indicate a long-standing mental state and not just a momentary lapse.

      After all, we can see that he was functioning in society while doing these things over an extended period. I really doubt that a plea of being not criminally responsible due to some mental breakdown will stick.

    • ant6n 12:15 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      And even if, he’ll probably just end up at Pinel for the rest of his life (rather than “walk out the front door”).

    • Hamza 22:00 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Maybe the Jury was given $50 to not watch it and have a night out at Foufs.

  • Kate 01:28 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    The director and administrative council at the Old Port have been given the sack by the federal government, and the Canada Lands Company put in direct control.

  • Kate 01:15 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    The Charbonneau commission has ended hearings till January, taking a holiday break but also a necessary pause to digest the testimonies so far and hire some new prosecutors.

  • Kate 01:13 on 2012/11/30 Permalink | Reply  

    Michael Applebaum has hired Gérald Tremblay’s brother Marcel to work in his borough as “support staff”.

  • Kate 23:21 on 2012/11/29 Permalink | Reply  

    The biggest batch of poutine ever made was cooked and eaten Thursday afternoon behind Christ Church Cathedral.

    • Blork 10:23 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I was about to make a grumpy post about these stupid “biggest food thing” and how those enormous things are always bad because the proportions are off, the food gets cold, quality is low, etc. Then I watched the JdeM video, and um, it actually looked pretty good.

  • Kate 20:10 on 2012/11/29 Permalink | Reply  

    Someone notes on Reddit that a lot of the Montreal images on Google Streetview have been refreshed. Certainly my neighbourhood, originally photographed in the dry gray time after winter but before spring, is now looking greener and more lively.

    • jeather 21:23 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      The satellite maps still haven’t been updated, though.

    • Marc 21:32 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      Well, they were from early 2009.

    • Ian 08:39 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      It’s different, but it’s still about 2 years old. At least the shots of Laurier in Mile-End are.

    • Marc 09:21 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      It varies from late 2011 to this past summer – election signs included.

    • dwgs 10:02 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      The first version of street view blanked out for a space of about 5 or 6 houses right at my place. I could see my house from up and down the block but not directly in front. I thought it was a camera glitch. Now when I check the new version it has done the same thing. Anyone have any idea why that might be? Do I have some secret agent living beside me?

    • Kate 10:19 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Odd. I don’t know.

      A week or two ago I was talking to someone about how Streetview had skipped the block of Clark south of Sherbrooke, where the old Café Sarajevo was, and the site of a nice old ghost sign on a wall. But it’s there now. Even Evans Lane is there.

      Maybe your mystery houses are not really dwellings, but are faux metro entrances or electricity transformers or something?

    • Blork 10:37 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Yay! I was really tired of the old view in front of my place. The new one was taken in August 2012. You can see my tomato plants in my back yard! I’ve also spotted my car at two different locations.

    • mare 12:31 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Google omits safe houses for battered women, schools, daycares and houses of public figures. And some more to make things a bit obfuscated. So don’t worry, that CIA safe house is probably not even there.

    • Kevin 14:14 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Do you live near 12 Grimmauld Place?

    • Kate 14:42 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      : )

    • Michel 14:45 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Sigh, on the old photos our Mini was at the end of the street. The car is no longer in the photo, nor do we have it anymore.
      /white people problems

    • Ian 18:06 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I f I go west on Laurier from Saint-Urbain, it is summer, but if I turn south on Parc then go back to Laurier heading east, there are no leaves on the trees up until about esplanade. Also, crossing parc west there is no construction, but crossing Parc east there is. This is clearly a pastiche of some very widely varying times. My amusing thing I noticed is that the postie has left a package on my front stoop facing Laurier yet again instead of posting a notice and carrying it the 2 blocks to my post office.

  • Kate 20:08 on 2012/11/29 Permalink | Reply  

    Linda Gyulai lays out for us what it means when a municipal party misuses its research and secretarial funds guaranteed by the cities and towns act.

  • Kate 11:37 on 2012/11/29 Permalink | Reply  

    François Cardinal looks at a possible new mayoral candidate – Gilles Duceppe. I can see it, but I can also see the municipal election cast as federalist Coderre vs. sovereignist Duceppe, and I don’t think that battle should be enacted at the city level, which should be more about city governance and development than nationalist agendas.

    • AJ 12:49 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      Good point. That said, I wonder if we don’t over-focus on a single person whose power to change things are admittedly limited. Someone can be a good symbol and rallying point for change, and of course have great ideas, but it’s not like we’re electing a king or queen. Given our city council’s parliamentary structure, I’d be more interested to see stronger slates of candidates that you can see working together as a team. If we really want an all-powerful mayor then we’d need to implement significant structural and legal change to the way the city runs, and that could be for ill or for good.

      The other half is an involved citizenry, transparency and a government that’s citizen-focused, listening.

      Many visionary and remarkably effective US mayors have experience at the provincial and federal level. Knowing how all three levels work together is a definite asset. (Thinking: Portland Mayor Sam Adams, and former SF Mayor turned Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom).

      NYTimes has an interesting book excerpt on the subject: http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/h/holli-mayor.html

    • david m 17:31 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      weirdly, it took my scoffing at the notion of duceppe’s chances as a mayoral candidate based on the fact of his being a hardcore sovereignist to realize that coderre could be seen my many as a hardcore canadianist. man, there’s a debate i hope we don’t have. if everyone would please just vote bergeron, everything will be great, i promise.

    • Tantastic Ted 18:48 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      Duceppe? Didn’t he get the message? Nobody wants to see his sour”c’est la faute du federale” puss anymore. One trick pony. He really doesn’t want to go through voter scorn twice. And Coderre might not even run. Something about embarrassing photos about company he has kept.

    • Kate 20:12 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      Ted, a lot of people still like Duceppe. I’ve never been able to perceive it, but he clearly has charm for some.

      I can’t find any news about Coderre and embarrassing photos. Where are you hearing this story?

  • Kate 11:03 on 2012/11/29 Permalink | Reply  

    Daniel Breton, the PQ environment minister, has thrown in the organic cotton towel on his ministerial position after stories emerged about a somewhat inglorious trail of unpaid debts and infractions. He remains MNA for his Montreal riding.

    Allow me a moment of political paranoia here. Breton, whatever his personal fiscal history, is an environmentalist. Is it just possible, now that Mme Marois is getting chummy with Alberta over its oil sand crude, that she wanted to remove someone who might have represented an obstacle to such a deal? Quebec will also be under growing pressure to expand fracking here, an environmental nightmare that Mme Marois may have to agree to if she wants to be able to pay for other things. She’ll definitely be up against this kind of tradeoff and may be streamlining her cabinet to make such deals easier to achieve. I wonder who initially spilled these beans on Breton.

    • David Tighe 11:23 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      I think it is absolutely absurd that a minister should have to resign because of such trivialities, some of them moreover, dating from years ago. What kind of democracy is this? I have been guilty myself of such crimes: I even had a speeding ticket in Gatineau thirty years ago. So I suppose I am now ineligible to hold public office. I thought that at least the Québecois were exceptionally tolerant. And that the Liberals should consider him beyond the pale (I assume their efforts have been motivated by moral outrage). When one reflects how they have tacitly condoned that corruption we are trying to come to terms with it is, to put it mildly hypocritical.

      Kate: your remark is subtle but I think unnecessary and pure speculation.

    • Kate 11:24 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      Of course it’s speculation. That’s why I warned you it was political paranoia.

    • Robert J 11:24 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      (but I didn’t inhale!)

    • dwgs 12:31 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      I’m a pretty liberal guy but ripping off EI, running out on $8000 of rent, getting busted for driving at 275 km/h, then getting busted for driving while under suspension? Not exactly cabinet material.

    • cheese 12:32 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      This is scary, we need more people like Breton in gov’t. Removing them for these supposed reasons just beggars more questions. I had been quite happy with most PQ policy/decisions prior to this.

    • Bill Binns 13:04 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      275 km/h?? Not sure how much an enviromentalist this guy is. There are only a few cars capable of that speed and none of them are exactly “green”.

    • steph 13:48 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      At this point I’m not even sure why they bother appointing someone as the environment minister.

    • Rejean 13:59 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      He also screwed up a coupla weeks ago when he meddled in the BAPE.

    • Ephraim 19:08 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      I’m not even sure why he is keeping his seat. Shouldn’t lawmakers be people who RESPECT the law? Has he cleared up all his tickets, all his back rent and his EI infraction? I’m sorry, but you clear things up before you get into the business of asking us to follow the laws that you put in place.

    • GC 19:12 on 2012/11/29 Permalink

      I agree we can’t exclude everyone with a speeding ticket from public office, David, but are you really putting that in the same category as the other infractions? It sounds like he defrauded at least three government programs, so what business does he have forming the government?

    • Stefan 07:57 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I think the issue of the speeding ticket here is dismissed too lightly by some. Going 100km/h in a 80km/h for example may be excusable, even if that limit is been there for some reason concerning safety.
      But 275km/h? This is simply irresponsable towards other people’s lives. I wouldn’t trust this guy to make decisions on any level of political hierarchy, aside from showing that he’s clearly as ‘environmentalist’ as a ‘defense minister’ who starts a war.
      I can’t believe he got off simply with a fine. Personally, I think someone that dangerous to the general public is to a degree mentally sick and should get some kind of mandatory treatment.

    • dwgs 10:06 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Exactly. The pattern seems to be that laws are for other people, not M. Breton.

    • Kevin 10:09 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      I cannot fathom going 275 km/h anywhere except on a TGV. Or if I had spent years training to ride a motorcycle that fast on a closed-circuit track. Then remember Breton was recorded doing that speed on a regular road. Insane, absolutely insane.

      That said, he’d still be a minister if he had simply admitted all these things up front, including paying all his outstanding bills, before becoming an MNA.

    • Kate 11:28 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      Josée Legault says Daniel Breton was used by the PQ for his environmental cred, then discarded once he became inconvenient. She too sees the PQ tightening up on issues that put business before the environment.

    • walkerp 12:14 on 2012/11/30 Permalink

      To Kate’s paranoid point, I do think they moved pretty quickly to discard him. Had they needed to cater to the environmental lobby, who have supported Breton for years, they might not have been so quick to turf him.

      Still, it is pretty outrageous. If you did have tough times or an irresponsible period in your past, that is excusable, but then once you are established, should you not make up for them, pay off your back taxes, rent and fines? It demonstrates a lack of personal responsibility that I personally consider hypocritical in an environment minister. The whole point of environmentalism is taking responsibility for the ramifications of your actions.

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